Bobby Flay Changed Food Network Forever | Bertcast # 24

Way back when… in 2013… I sit down with Bobby Flay and talk about the early Food Network days, Iron Chef pressure, the table-jump moment that turned into an international incident, and why restaurants still matter more to him than celebrity. We also get into grilling with Obama, being recognized in public, and how Bobby somehow makes me feel both inspired and completely unqualified.

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